ok, I think my prob. is there are no keys. In some setting in menu, I found a area that says dvb keys 0 and 0 seen. If i go to admin, third party, keys, it doesnt do anything when i try to clik into the keys area. Just stays on that screen. I can scan nimq4? and see the program guide, but no shows. Comes up "key check- waiting for valid key". So it looks like I dont have any for some reason. I thought the bins loaded them? Still cant scan any 119, echo, etc. Just scans for a sec then shows the finished processing mesg, without going beyond 1 transpnder.