I don't buy as many games as I used to since most have become shoddy console ports , but the ones I've been playing have been running great on my Phenom II N930 (TF2, BC2, FO3, ME2). Part of why they're so "slow" has to do with the architecture, the fabrication, and the TDP - Especially the TDP. They're 45nm process chips based on the previous Phenoms. If you look at the AMD quads, they range from 25 to 45W. You're not going to be able to clock them much higher than 2 GHz with 4 physical cores.Look at Intel's Core i quads and they're either 45W or 55W on a 32nm process - only the i7s are 45nm. They're designed to use more power. Even then, hardly any of the 45W chips run over 2 GHz. What makes the Core i vastly better than the Phenom II for heavy load programs is Turbo Boost and Hyperthreading. Thing is, Turbo Boost downclocks physical cores in order to overclock 1-2 cores higher. The Phenom IIs can't do that, but all 4 cores are still working at 2 GHz. It'll still get trounced by single or dual core only programs, but they can start holding their own with the multithreaded ones. The way I see it, these Phenom IIs are just a stopgap to keep AMD in some competition until they release their Fusion APUs.